tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9180199155294533801.post1526629196616464661..comments2023-06-30T11:20:53.915+02:00Comments on Let's go explore: (One of) The most important question in testingCarsten Feilberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18348610778313662800noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9180199155294533801.post-2715458859390823852021-02-27T10:29:38.623+01:002021-02-27T10:29:38.623+01:00Very useful post. This is my first time i visit he...Very useful post. This is my first time i visit here. I found so many interesting stuff in your blog especially its discussion. Really its great article. Keep it up. <a href="http://securitydoorswindowsmelbourne.com.au/" rel="nofollow">Security doors & Window</a>tiffany hunthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13018429737756005039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9180199155294533801.post-4056882336639855592011-01-06T09:07:18.194+01:002011-01-06T09:07:18.194+01:00@Anders - I partially agree with you: 'One of&...@Anders - I partially agree with you: 'One of' should be part of the title. <br /><br />As for the other comment, as I see it, in <i>testing</i> we're supposed to find information. If we already know (or suspect) that this information is not going to be used anyway, we will probably not do a very good job (why should we ?) (feel free to substitute 'Carsten' for 'we' ifCarsten Feilberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18348610778313662800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9180199155294533801.post-24140484240900450212011-01-05T16:52:03.871+01:002011-01-05T16:52:03.871+01:00@Anders Yes; I try to prefer "one of the"...@Anders Yes; I try to prefer "one of the" to "the" on its own.<br /><br />I like to think of Carsten's question as the bass line of the testing music.<br /> <br />---Michael B.Michael Bolton http://www.developsense.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09027725699187903416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9180199155294533801.post-5236866141322831512011-01-05T16:49:19.618+01:002011-01-05T16:49:19.618+01:00There's another, more charitable way to interp...There's another, more charitable way to interpret the instruction that Jesper's manager gave, perhaps: "Don't believe that you can find <em>all</em> those bugs (I don't believe you can do that anyway.) Just do your best to reveal whatever information you can." That would seem perfectly okay to me.<br /><br />Now, Jesper was there. Maybe he can tell us if the manager Michael Bolton http://www.developsense.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09027725699187903416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9180199155294533801.post-71750729895868488912011-01-05T12:32:59.060+01:002011-01-05T12:32:59.060+01:00Oh, ok :) still, I'm a little puzzled by the u...Oh, ok :) still, I'm a little puzzled by the unconditional title of your post here. Can I suggest a rephrasing? "The most important question in <i>test management</i>". Or even put a "One of the..." in front. Because in actual <i>testing</i>, I feel there are more important questions to ask than questioning how and when the test results will be used. E.g. who are the usersAnders Dinsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00528986783242049089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9180199155294533801.post-57684486919825280042011-01-05T10:30:16.862+01:002011-01-05T10:30:16.862+01:00Soa Testing: Thank you. Your comment is much appre...<b>Soa Testing:</b> Thank you. Your comment is much appreciated!<br /><br /><b>Jesper:</b> I've seen managers planning with bumping off (the expensive) developers once the test phase begun.. Needless to say, that didn't happen, and it ruined in part the business case. I think your example supports the message that there are many incentives for testing :-)<br /><br /><b>Anders:</b> Oh - ICarsten Feilberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18348610778313662800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9180199155294533801.post-40203650872464853932011-01-05T06:07:38.768+01:002011-01-05T06:07:38.768+01:00Customers most often want assurance of quality fro...Customers most often want assurance of quality from testers. We can't give them that - we can give them knowledge about the quality (in specific areas).<br /><br />I think we can do a great job without knowing the answer to this question... after all: Who knows what we'll be finding? Essentially, I'm gettin ghired here to find out what's in there because the customer doesn't Anders Dinsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00528986783242049089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9180199155294533801.post-89392121661022316692011-01-04T23:03:39.833+01:002011-01-04T23:03:39.833+01:00A manager once said: Just test, don't find all...A manager once said: Just test, don't find all those bugs. I guess his primary reason for having a test, was to present that it had been tested - not to present the test results. <br />Sometimes the primary impact isn't the actual work but the impression of work being doneJesper L. Ottosenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15799832907394506307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9180199155294533801.post-45491511668891104912011-01-04T17:22:54.437+01:002011-01-04T17:22:54.437+01:00Good point, Carsten, but (and I know I may sound l...Good point, Carsten, but (and I know I may sound like the devil's advocate here)... isn't this always the most important question before you set out to do any kind of research for anyone? "What do you expect from me and what will you do about what I'm going to tell you?"<br /><br />And to counter you entirely... I actually find that if there's any discipline where we as Anders Dinsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00528986783242049089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9180199155294533801.post-17926712040748160482011-01-03T13:23:02.129+01:002011-01-03T13:23:02.129+01:00you have described really a very useful informatio...you have described really a very useful information to us which is really a very useful to me.Thanks for asking such great question to all tester.soa testinghttp://www.testing-whiz.com/soa-testing.htmlnoreply@blogger.com